Djurdjevic's Radio Interviews
Feb 29, 2008
a Potential New Geopolitical Crisis in the Making
Russia's & NWO's Interests Clash in
Washington Is Still a
"Crisis Factory;" Clinton, Albright, Clark et. al. Should Also Be Tried
for War Crimes against Humanity (Serb civilians)
FROM SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA
Topic: GLOBAL AFFAIRS
GEORGE BERRY'S "CRASH" SHOW
on GNC (Genesis Communications Network)
SCOTTSDALE, Feb 29, 2008 - If you click on the link below, you can
listen to a rebroadcast of the Bob Djurdjevic interview that originally
on Fri Feb 29
at 11AM Eastern (9AM Arizona):
- GNC Host introducing Bob as "a
distinguished guest": Bob will unmask the anti-Christian policies of
the Bush administration and show us while the New World Order hates the
Russian president Putin. Went on with all published credits.
For many years, you have devoted your energies to enlightening the
American public about what's really going on in the Balkans. But
for most Americans, attention span is about 15 mins. So for our
listeners, would tell us what is the geopolitical reality of Kosovo;
what is the history of the Serbs in Kosovo, and why is Kosovo such an
important Christian foundation for the Serbs?"
- Bob Dj.: The geopolitical significance
of this entire region of the Balkans went up after the end of the Cold
War, roughly in 1989, with the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's
because the country of former Yugoslavia, a conglomerate of six
different "states," had been held together by strong arm methods of
communists, especially Tito was president. Once that went away, it
created a political vacuum in a very important part of the world
strategically. Empires have fought over that piece of land called
the Balkans for centuries. It would be appropriate to call it a
"graveyard of empires." That's where the Turkish Ottoman empire
met its end; that's where the Austro-Hungarian empire ended; that's
where the Third Reich, Hitler's empire found its end, and so on and so
So after the end of the Cold War, there was a
race between Washington and Moscow to fill that vacuum. Our
government couldn't very well just move it the way Hitler and others
occupied it. So Washington incited secessions by various parts,
knowing fully well this would lead to bloody conflicts. That's
because at the end, they could move in as "peacekeepers" or
"peacemakers" and occupy the country as a "knights in shining armor" who
are brining peace to embattled combatants.
As to what happened with specifically with
Kosovo, that was just one of the geopolitical dominos that fell during
the course of the last 18 years. Its geopolitical significance is
that that's where the cross-currents of Europe and Asia meet. This
is where 80,000 Serbian knights stood on the ramparts of Christianity
and faced the assault by the Islamic assailants from Asia, the Turks.
They lost, and about 500 years of Turkish occupation followed. But
eventually the Serbs overthrew the Turks in the 19th century, and Serbia
became an independent country.
- GNC Host: How long has
Kosovo been a Christian spiritual heartland for the Serbs?
- Bob Dj.: For as long as
Serbia has been around. It's kind of a birthplace of Serbia.
It's what Jerusalem is to the Jews. For at least a 1,000 years, to
answer your question directly. But a tremendous demographic shift
took place in the last century. In 1929, the Serbs represented a
61% majority in Kosovo. By 1961, they were only 27%.
- GNC Host: Obviously,
when international bankers draw up boundaries like this, they are almost
certainly planning the next war. Since there has been such a
diminution of the Serbian population in Kosovo, obviously, there has
been a massive amount of 'ethnic cleansing' of Serbs in the area.
The Kosovo so-called 'freedom fighters' were actually financed by the
Bush-CIA drug money connection. What has really been happening
that the American people have not been told about? We'll address
that question after the break.
- GNC Host: What
percentage of the Kosovo population is Serbian today?
- Bob Dj.: As far as I
understand, probably less than 5%. There is only one small area in
northeastern Kosovo that's a Serbian enclave. In the last nine
years of the NATO and UN occupation, there has been a wholesale
destruction of the Serbian Christian churches and other ancient
- GNC Host: How many
monasteries have been approximately destroyed?
- Bob Dj.: Certainly over
100. If your listeners visit the Truth in Media web site, they can
see the exact numbers as well as pictures of destruction. But even
more important that the number, these are priceless irreplaceable
cultural objects that are in some cases 700, 800, 900 years old.
They are unique in the history of the world, not just the Serbian
history. And that's the kind of destruction that took place under
the NATO supervision. You may have seen a video made by the Albanian
soldiers desecrating a Serbian church. In one of the scenes, you
can even see them shooting at the cross inside the church.
- GNC Host: Was this video
shown on Fox News?
- Bob Dj.: Of course, not.
If there were the truth in media, there would be no need for the Truth
in Media, the non-profit organization under which I have been doing
- GNC Host: What is your
position on the question of the so-called Albanian 'freedom fighters'
being financed by the Bush administration drug money?
- Bob Dj.: I personally
have no proof of it. Like you, I've read stories about that.
Certainly, common sense would suggest that somebody with significant
money and influence would have to finance them. KLA fighters were
said to be wearing German-made uniforms and using NATO-type weapons.
Also, Richard Holbrooke, Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans in the
1990s, was filmed openly posing with the KLA terrorists as their friend
and ally, with guns and all around them. So there is no question
that the U.S. government has been supporting the Albanian terrorists.
They only thing missing is when, and how and how much.
- GNC Host: Was this video
shown on Fox News?
- Bob Dj.: Of course, not.
If there were the truth in media, there would be no need for the Truth
in Media, the non-profit organization
- GNC Host: Describing CIA
planes landing in Mina, AK.
- Bob Dj.: Describes the
"Washington Crisis Factory" article. New World order strategy is
like a wolf in a sheep's clothing. The real NWO motto is not what the
"lamb" says: "World peace through world trade." The real NWO
motto, as the wolf's actions show is, "perpetual war for perpetual
commerce." That's why they need a crisis factory so they could
deploy their war machinery, such as in Iraq, Bosnia, and so many other
places around the world.
- GNC Host: You could not
script a policy that is designed to spark ethnic hatred more than our
government policies have been.
- Bob Dj.: Talks about why
Kosovo secession and recognition are unique. Points to the map at
the TiM web site that shows 23 potential ethnic conflagration points in
Europe alone. It's such a dangerous precedent.
- GNC Host: We'll be
back after the break....
- GNC Host: Repeats the
introduction. Provides additional references to the TiM web site.
Bob, you have met the former Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic, and
spoken to him extensively. What were your impressions of him?
- Bob Dj.: Well, I met him
twice, both a long time ago, when he was still very powerful and very
popular in Serbia. That was in 1990 and 1992, before all these
wars had started. I tried to figure out if he was really a
patriotic Serb, or maybe in cahoots with the NWO. My impressions
were that he was a very personable and charming man, as so many
dictators are when they are not threatened. But I tend to judge
people by their actions, not their words. And what we have seen
from his actions was that, in the end, he was no friend of the Serbs.
He was not a friend of anyone, for that matter. I believe that he
was a man in for himself, a true died-in-the-wool communist. He did
things that ended up being very harmful to the Serbs in the end.
When he was captured and taken
to Hague to face war crimes trial, he was just one of many who were so
charged. Again, the number of accused was lopsided; most were
Serbs even though many others committed war crimes, including the likes
of Clinton, Albright, Gen Clark etc., who killed many Serb civilians and
destroyed hospitals, schools etc.
- GNC Host: Let's zero in
on that, please. If the same yardsticks were applied to Albright
and Clinton, what would your conclusion be?
- Bob Dj.: I've already
answered that question in my columns many times. I said that
Milosevic did deserve to be tried for war crimes, but by the Serbian
people for the crimes he had committed against Serbian national
interests. On the other hand, if the international community were
to take justice in its hands and played it fair, then right next to
Milosevic there should have been Clinton, and Albright, and Gen. Clark
and these other people who have killed thousands of innocent victims in
Serbia and other parts of the former Yugoslavia. They deserve to
be tried for war crimes every bit as much as the local chieftains.
- GNC Host: It's
interesting that the American media have created this misconception that
Bush is a great Christian, while Vladimir Putin is an atheist.
What is the reality about Vladimir Putin?
- Bob Dj.: Actually, both
are myths created by the so-called mainstream media, which I call the "lamestream"
media. The reason for this is that we always have to have villains.
And Russia has been the oldest and the greatest villain we've had, even
though Russia has been traditionally more religious that this nation, or
any other newfangled nation in the last 200 years. Don't forget
that the old name for Moscow is the Third Rome. Moscow is also
known as a 40 by 40 city. It used to have 40 districts with 40
churches in each district. That's how deeply religious the Russian
Back to your question about
Putin, he was one of the Russian leaders responsible in part for the
rebuilding of many beautiful churches in Russia, like the big Christ the
Savior Cathedral. Putin is often seen in that cathedral with the
head of the Russian Orthodox church, Alexei II, including as recently as
last week. So there is no question that Putin is a religious man
who had found his religion, I am told, when his dacha was destroyed by
fire. He ran in to save his two daughters, I am told, and when the
charred debris was cleared, the only thing not charred was the cross.
And that's what began his conversion from a communist to a spiritual
- GNC Host: What we are
witnessing is absolutely incredible. They are jockeying in the
official media for positions possibly leading to World War III. If
the Cold War is over, why are all these new countries joining NATO?
And then we have this absurd explanation by Condoleezza Rice that we are
putting in the missiles around Russia to protect from Iran? We'll
be back after the break...
- GNC Host: We're back
with our distinguished guest, Bob Djurdjevic. I would urge all of
my listeners to visit Bob's web site (he again gives out the details re.
TiM). So again, they are in a process of encircling Russia with
missiles. The international banksters are obviously planning their
next war. These missiles are a dagger pointed a Russia. They
are a way to start WW III, in my opinion. What is your opinion on
what's going on there?
- Bob Dj.: First of all, I
agree with your assertion that Russia is still the Bogey No. 1 of the
NWO. As for those missiles, they had a two-fold purpose. One
is to put more military pressure on Russia's borders. But the
second one is to fill the pockets of our "death merchants."
Because every one of those former Soviet countries will have to replace
almost its entire weapons arsenal with the NATO equipment. And
guess who manufactures those? Our "death merchants," of course.
So it's got a dual purpose. That's why I said "perpetual war for
perpetual commerce" is the NWO motto.
Now, if your listeners go to our
web site and find a world map I did back in 1995. It shows "three
iron rings," as I called them, around Russia's neck. Explains what
the rings were. The Cold War is over, and yet nothing has changed
except for one thing that works in Russia's favor. And that is the
high energy prices... that have enriched Russia beyond belief. So
suddenly we have not only a militarily strong country that still can
incinerate the world with its nukes, but we have a country with a newly
flexing economic muscle, because of the $100+ per barrel oil.
And so that's a new wild card in
the equation. That could work to actually constrain Russia's
choices, and actually mitigate against your WW III scenario.
Because Russia becomes a part of the NWO cartel now. All these
western oil companies are suddenly now Russia's customers. And thereby
Russia gets drawn in into the web of globalism.
- GNC Host: That's a
brilliant analysis. You mentioned your archives that are going
back for years. You've been fighting this good fight for a long
time. How many years have you been doing this?
- Bob Dj.: The Truth in
Media since about 1990. But actually on and off since my
childhood. I left the former Yugoslavia because I was a part of
the student uprising against the communist government in 1968. And
I remained in exile for 20 years.
- GNC Host: So you've been
a trouble-maker for a long time... [joking and laughing]
- Bob Dj.: [also laughing]
Well, I don't know about a trouble-maker. Maybe I'd stay with your
first premise - an enlightening rod for the American public.
- GNC Host: It's
unfortunate that a vast majority of American people are so ill-informed.
- GNC Host: What's been your experience
with mainstream media?
- Bob Dj.: Mine has been a token
"opposing view" to create pretense of free press in mainstream media.
That's what I am... a token opposition to prevailing media views.
So to make sure of that, I rarely get interviewed or published twice in
the mainstream media. The New York Times, for example, made that
very clear. They published one of my OpEd pieces, and made it very
clear that that was it; not to look for any more of my pieces being
- Bob Dj. Closing Remarks: I want to
bring Kosovo home to America. What happened there to the Serbs
could happen in our country. Many Mexicans believe AZTLAN is still
their land. We are in the midst of a demographic takeover of the
American Southwest. We, Americans, could become the Serbs of
Aztlan - if we allow demographic takeovers to become a legal and
- GNC Host: Close by Berry, paraphrasing an ancient
Chinese curse: "We are living in interesting times."
Bob, thank you so much for being on the program.
Also see... "Kosovo
Is Serbia," Pat
Buchanan's latest column:
Balkanization beckon anew?";
Gen Lew MacKenzie's
interview on Canadian CTV network; Canadapress article
Administration Unites with Al Qaeda in Kosovo" by Paul Williams;
"Separatist Movements Eyes are on Kosovo – Independence May Fuel Wars
Worldwide" by Tony Dolz
... and TiM's earlier piece, such as Epilogue
to NATO's War on Serbia: NATO's
Secret Losses (2006);
NATO's War & Peace (1999);
as well as...
AZTLAN: America's Kosovo (May 2000);
"An ugly double standard in Kosovo conflict?" (WT column, 10/25/98);
"Milosevic: 'A Riddle Wrapped in a Mystery'..." - TiM Bulletin (June 1998);
Milosevic on Trial - Balkans Affairs (Feb 13, 2002);
Also, check out other
Djurdjevic's WASHINGTON TIMES columns:
"Kosovo: Why Are We Involved?", and
"Ginning Up Another Crisis" etc.
Or Djurdjevic's NEW DAWN magazine columns: "Washington's
Crisis Factory," and "A
New Iron Curtain Over Europe"
Finally, here's a poster, for example (right), from the
Djurdjevic lecture in Perth, Western Australia, on Oct 21, 1999 - one of
many such lectures the TiM editor gave around the world and in Serbia
(click on the image to enlarge)
Links from the official Serbian Orthodox Christian Church web site in
Kosovo Serbs' "Kristallnacht"
Links from the official Kosovo Serbian Orthodox Church web site:
Christian Churches in Kosovo
Desecrated Ancient Priceless
Icons in Serbian Churches
Kosovo Serbian Orthodox
Christian Church History
Postwar Kosovo As It Really
Is (a report)
Postwar Terror against Serbs
Human Rights Abuses
Remaining Serbian Minority in
Kosovo: "Prisoners in Our Own Homes"
Albanian Terrorists &
Also check out... "The Latest 'Kosovo
Crisis,' with Robby Noel",
the Beltway with Bruce DuMont",
Chuck Harder; Free American, Radio Shows,
KFYI Radio Interview,
Charles Collins Radio
Dictatoriship of Capital", "New World Order's Inquisition in Bosnia",
"Globalization vs. National Sovereignty: The Princes of the