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New Documentary on NATO’s War and “Peace”
3.1 Biggest-ever Demonstration!
Greek Church Is Right to Resist
PHOENIX, June 28 - Today is St. Vitus Day, Vidovdan 2000, the 611th anniversary of the Battle of Kosovo. Those who are interested in learning more about this epic battle, and in a historical perspective of this holy day for every Serb, should go to the TiM web site - home page, and then click on either the Kosovo Girl painting, or on the Serb cross from the 16th century (left, the TiM editor is standing next to it).
The original cross, roughly a man’s size (left photo), is on exhibit at a museum in Sentandreja, Hungary , about 20 miles north of Budapest, one of the northernmost Serb settlements established in the late 17th century. A pillar from Prince Lazar’s palace in Kosovo can also be seen in this picturesque little town on the banks of the Danube. Those were among the many religious and cultural artifacts the Serbs carried with them for hundreds of miles, on ox carts or on foot, during the so-called Carnojevic Migration (Seoba Srba). Arsenije Carnojevic was the Serb bishop who led his people away from the Ottoman Empire’s oppression.
WASHINGTON, June 27 - “Collateral Damage,” a 53-minute documentary about NATO’s war and “peace,” filed last year in Serbia after the bombing ended by the Cato Institute’s analysts, Gary Dempsey and Aaron Lukas, is now available on the Internet.
Here’s a short description that TiM has received from Mr. Dempsey:
months after NATO ended its air war against Yugoslavia, two of
Washington's new breed of hands-on policy analysts, Gary Dempsey and Aaron
Lukas, flew to the Balkans to document the "unintended
consequences" of NATO's bombing campaign.
with the latest in mini-digital camera technology, they traveled through
the region, filming patrols in Kosovo cities where NATO troops are
stationed, inspecting bombed-out industrial complexes in Serbia, and
interviewing Macedonians, Romanians and Bulgarians who have suffered
because of the war. "Collateral Damage: The Balkans After NATO's Air
War" is a record of their findings.”
To which we can add that
we’ve found the “collateral damage” to the economies of Serbia’s
neighbors particularly interesting. These
stories - how the New World Order and its military alliance managed to
hurt the lives and economies of its supposed Balkans allies - is one of
the grossly under-reported aspects of NATO’s war against Serbia.
The Dempsey-Lukas film also
provides some interesting statistics about popular sentiments in Bulgaria
and Romania about the NATO war. As
in Greece, where you saw in yesterday’s TiM Bulletin published
testimonies about 99% of the Greeks being “fiercely opposed” to
NATO’s bombing, yet its socialist government playing along with NATO
anyway, two-thirds of Romanians,
and over 60% of Bulgarians were
also against the war. Yet
their governments, just as Athens, nonetheless obediently toed the
alliance’s line despite a significant human pain and economic damage
that NATO had caused to these Balkan countries.
Greece, Bulgaria, Romania…
just as the EU’s Haiderbash
in Austria earlier this year, are all examples of a European “Demo
Farce,” a state-socialist plutocracy, complementing a similarly sad
state of “democracies” in America,
for example (you can search our web site for a “demo farce” of your
And now, to view the film,
“Collateral Damage,” click on:
(you must have either a
RealPlayer or a Windows Media multimedia software installed, both of which
are available FREE on the Internet).
PHOENIX, June 27 - As soon as yesterday’s TiM Bulletin hit the Internet ether, we started getting feedback from TiM readers around the world, so far all supportive, regarding our stories on Greece (“Fleecing Greece: The €uro vs. the Cross + Burns’ Ire on Fire Burns U.S. Diplomat’s Cool”). Here’s a selection of some letters:
3.1 Biggest-ever Athens Demonstration!
Plus, Some Jewish-Americans, Not Only the EU, Meddled in
Greek Internal Affairs (ID Cards)
June 27 - The number of demonstrators, according to the Church, was
(about) 800,000. I was there and estimated this must be true - and of
course don't wait from the police, that says they were 130,000-200,000, to
give an accurate number... While private TV channels covered the
demonstration, state TV channels showed almost nothing, because never
before was there so big a demonstration in Athens. The demonstrators held
mostly Greek flags and Byzantium flags, and not "crucifixes" as
the New York Times says.
Orthodox Churches (Patriarchate of Jerusalem, Serbia, Alexandria, etc.)
either sent representatives, or took the side of the Greek church with
epistles sent to the Greek Holy Synod.
"recent poll publicized by Eleftherotypia" is a hoax, as are
many other things this newspaper has publicized. This particular
newspaper, allegedly a "leftist" one, blindly supports the
government which is "socialist" in name ONLY.
Greeks who oppose (prime minister) Simitis' decision about ID cards are
far more than 46%, while those who support it are less than 40% for sure.
Just keep in mind that 30% of Greeks did not vote in recent elections,
while PASOK was elected with 44% of the 70% who voted. But many PASOK
supporters participated in the demonstrations organized by the Church,
because they don't like this particular decision of the party they voted
not only the Church of Greece oppose this governmental decision. Many
leftists who have nothing to do with the Church (G. Karabelias, D.
Haritopoulos and others), most anarchists, as well as the Communist Party
of Greece, oppose the decision too. Some of them joined the demonstration,
mostly without flags. Archbishop Christodoulos never called the Greek PM a
"dictator". Another metropolitan, Ambrosios of Kalavryta, used
Greek law says that personal info must not be included in ID cards, unless
if the owner of the ID card wants to. Now the government bans everyone
from this lawful right misinterpreting the law and "protects" us
from fantastic "discriminations" against our will!
the minister that interprets the law in this wrong way (Mr. Stathopoulos)
is NOT elected, but appointed. He is a person that wants the removal of
Christ's icons from the courtrooms and schools, as he says in a book
published some years ago. He wants the "civic" wedding to be
obligatory and the religious one only optional, while Greeks avoid
"civic" wedding and only a small percentage gets married this
way. He also wants the frontispiece of our constitution to be removed,
since it says "In the name of the Holy and Consubstantial and
removal is totally ridiculous: The minister says that "this was made
in times where there were not human rights", but does not say that
the American, as well as the German Constitution also invoke God in their
frontispiece. Such changes are against the will and the psyche of the vast
majority of Greeks. Even the atheists here are not disturbed by Christ's
icons. Most "Roma"
are also Christians; and the few Muslims really do not care about icons -
while some of their representatives are against the removal of religion
from ID cards.
human rights, yeah, sure, we know about them! We can ask the bombed Serbs
for more information.
a PASOK ex minister stated, if PASOK had revealed its plans concerning ID
cards before the elections, it would not be elected. "Religious
minorities" don't face problems in Greece. This country is of the
most tolerant in the whole world, though 99% are Orthodox Christians. Only
some pseudo-religious cults like Scientology face problems with the law
because of their illegal activities (proselytism, financial exploitation
of members, blackmails, spying etc). Other EU members are more severe with
Scientology; in Germany it is banned
while its members are not allowed to work in state posts.
enough, some of the fervent supporters of this wrong interpretation of the
ID law also supported Scientology in the Court; some certain
Eleftherotypia journalists, included in the cults' "list of
friends", (revealed by the inquiry made by the District Attorney),
have publicized articles sent by the cult's headquarters, as it was proven
far as I know, the EU does not care about national ID cards, but only for
the common EU ID-passport that will be ready in two years. It will not
cancel the national ID cards but will exist in parallel with them. Maybe
some people won't like this, but it is the Jewish Council of USA which
insists that religions should not be included in ID cards. [emphasis added by the author-Dimitriadou, TiM Ed.] On
10.5.1999, Archbishop Christodoulos announced that not only he had long
correspondence with this Council, but its representatives also had visited
him, as well as the Greek PM - on the same day.
is also another great problem with the new ID cards: they will include a
magnetic "strip" which the ID owner will not be able to read,
while the policemen - and others - will. The church opposes both the strip
and the 666 number that is said to be included in it. Non-religious people
oppose the strip because they don't want to carry information hidden from
them, information that can be either false or quite personal.
Dimitriadou, Author-Journalist, Athens, Greece
3.2 Greek Church Is Right to Resist
27 - Regarding the Church issue, Archbishop Christodoulos and the Church
are right in resisting pressure from the government of Greece and the
European Union. Greece is a sovereign state and no other country has the
right to impose its own views on Greece or any other country. Interesting
that the article preceding this one used the word
"Balkanization". The Balkan people's have a noble history in
preserving their independence from evil rulers from the Ottomans to the
The elitist Europeans
and westerners should remember that it was a modern European country that
gave the world Aushwitz and Dachau. Communism was also a western import to
Russia and the Balkans. The twentieth century's three totalitarian
movements (Fascism, Nazism, and communism) were all of western European
origin as were both World Wars.
If the Church of
Greece loses this battle, it will be a defeat for the right of nations to
govern themselves and a victory for internationalism. I believe that
prominent among the reasons why the western media are criticizing the
Church of Greece is that Archbishop Christodoulos denounced the NATO
bombing of Serbia and President Bill Clinton. Articles critical of the
Archbishop have neglected to mention that upon being selected as
Archbishop two years ago, he has moved to appeal to young people to return
to the Church, has visited AIDS clinics and prisons to minister to
prisoners, and has condemned racism and anti-semitism.
The Greek War of
Independence of 1821 was started by the Church which preserved the faith,
language, and national consciousness of Greece for centuries. The
Europeans intervened in the internal affairs of the Church of Greece in
the nineteenth century as they are doing now. When Greece became
independent, the Europeans promoted the formulation of an autocephalous
Church free from the Ecumenical Patriarchate. Supposedly, this was to make
Greece free of Turkish influence but in reality it was to split Greece
The Patriarchate of
Constantinople had warm relations with Russia and was assisted financially
by the Russians. The European powers believed Russia would have an
influence on Greece if an autocephalous Church was not formed. The
Russians had opposed taking away Ecclesiastical
territory from the Patriarchate. In any case, the Europeans are
meddling in matters that are not their concern, again. If the Church
prevails, it will be a victory for the right of self determination from
internationalism and the NWO Eastern Orthodox nations should all unite for
their own survival.
Burns… To my knowledge, the
Ambassador was referring to my friend Phillip's piece. I am not aware if
he was critical of my letter, but if he was, that is his problem. The US
government and the media are all slamming Greece for supposedly being a
"terrorist" country. Editorials in the American and British
press cite almost by instinct, the anti-war demonstrations in Athens last
year and those against Clinton on his visit to Athens.
The media has moved
from their traditional bias against Greece as a country, to the Greek
people. The people of Greece are being called terrorist sympathizers
because they demonstrated against NATO's bombing of Serbia. That
conclusively illustrates that NATO is an anti-democratic institution.
Demonstrate against NATO or dissent from the insane policy of bombing
Serbia, and one is a "terrorist". The media have made clear
there is no legitimate reason to protest against NATO or the Clinton
administration. So much for the right to demonstrate, or for free speech.
MOSCOW, June 26 - Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said in talks with his Greek counterpart
on Monday (June 26) that Yugoslavia's Kosovo province must be
demilitarized, according to an Associated Press report from Moscow. Putin also called for greater cooperation in Europe to bring
stability to the region.
Putin toned down
recent Russian support of Slobodan Milosevic, saying that even though the
Yugoslav president should be involved in Kosovo affairs, ''that doesn't
mean that the world community should accept all that happens in that
region,'' the Interfax news agency reported.
A delegation of
Yugoslav military officials, led by air force chief Col. Gen. Spasoje
Smiljanic, also arrived in Moscow on Monday to discuss defense issues and
the training Serbian officers in Russia, the ITAR-Tass news agency
Stephanopoulos also discussed Russia's proposed anti-missile defense
system, which is a response to American proposals to amend the 1972
Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty so it can build a limited national missile
defense system. Stephanopoulos said Greece ''takes most seriously Russia's
proposal for creating a pan-European anti-missile system,'' Interfax said.
Also, check out... Djurdjevic's WASHINGTON TIMES columns: "Christianity Under Siege," "Silence Over Persecuted Christians", "Chinese Dragon Wagging Macedonian Tail," "An Ugly Double Standard in Kosovo Conflict?", "NATO's Bullyboys", "Kosovo: Why Are We Involved?", and "Ginning Up Another Crisis"